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GunBlazer · May 24, 2005, 11:27 PM // 23:27

20 Monk/Mesmer here, just wanna ask all of you how often you run with divine boon.

I have had it on 24/7 for the past 6-7 levels, it makes me heal a godly ammount every cast of orison of healing or Dwayna's Kiss, however -1 energy regen and +2 energy on spells, it literally doubles the ammount im healing for per spell.

But lately i have noticed that while my burst healing ability is insane, I tend to run out of energy quite quick and end up only being able to throw a heal every 6-8 seconds when im out of energy, this isnt good for pvp or when the damage on the party doesn't stop.

WITHOUT divine boon, I am pretty much constantly healing without ever having too many energy issues.

I'm not too sure if I want to ditch it though, so my question is, how many of you guys rely on divine boon as much as I do?

Bgnome · May 24, 2005, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by GunBlazer

WITHOUT divine boon, I am pretty much constantly healing without ever having too many energy issues.

that's pretty much how it goes. if you want to run a healer monk, you max out healing and divine favor and forget boon. monks need all the energy management they can get.

Xavz · May 25, 2005, 12:15 AM // 00:15

Pull it down as soon as you run out of energy. It can still be very useful, especially if you're using 5en spammables.

Anariel · May 25, 2005, 12:23 AM // 00:23

I've thought about using divine boon combined with peace and harmony giving back 4 bars of energy regen, but 5 energy regen bars is really, really nice. The divine boon -2 energy per cast making orisons 7 energy cast is efficient for a while but I think it becomes more cumbersome as you run out of energy.

Thanato · May 25, 2005, 12:43 AM // 00:43

the eternal deabte, quantity over quality

IMO it depends on the situation. If your tanks are getting hit for big damage but the target will go down fast, divine boom should be good

if its one of those long winded battles, you're better off with ditching divine boon and doing your standard heals

Lazarus · May 25, 2005, 04:48 AM // 04:48

I use it untill I run out of energy, then turn it off. Really it's best for when you have 3 healers in the party. That way one can remove conditions and curses, one can cast protections, and the third can res while they all heal. You won't be casting as many support spells and Divine Boon gives you the mega heals.

Lazarus

Axehilt · May 25, 2005, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Divine Boon's a pretty sweet skill and makes for a very effective healer. You just have to be extra careful to not over-heal (which would waste the point of the bonus healing). Other than that, it can let you be extremely mana efficient with your spells - especially area heals like Heal Area and Heal Party. With Heal Party you get that extra Divine Boon bonus applied to every single party member at the same low cost of 2 additional energy. Obviously it's situational where your entire party will be damaged evenly, but it's still insanely energy efficient if you do encounter that situation.

Anariel · May 25, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09

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Originally Posted by Axehilt

Divine Boon's a pretty sweet skill and makes for a very effective healer. You just have to be extra careful to not over-heal (which would waste the point of the bonus healing). Other than that, it can let you be extremely mana efficient with your spells - especially area heals like Heal Area and Heal Party. With Heal Party you get that extra Divine Boon bonus applied to every single party member at the same low cost of 2 additional energy. Obviously it's situational where your entire party will be damaged evenly, but it's still insanely energy efficient if you do encounter that situation.

Didn't know that, but very good to know. I love heal party to death.

Aranarth · May 25, 2005, 10:55 AM // 10:55

Divine Boon is an amazing spell, but it requires a fairly specific build. This is what I have been running:

Class: Monk / Necromancer

Attributes: (cost) '+' indicates Rune attributes
Divine Favor: 12+4 (97)
Healing Prayers: 11+1 (77)
Blood Magic: 6 (21)

Total attribute points used: 195/200

Skills: [Attribute] (Energy, Cast Time, Recharge TIme)
1) Orison of Healing [Healing Prayers] (5,1,2) Spell: Heal target ally for 60 health.

2) Heal Other [Healing Prayers] (10,1,3) Spell: Heal target other ally for 151 health.

3) Dwayna's Kiss [Healing Prayers] (5,1,3) Spell: Heal target other ally for 51 health and an additional 17 health for each enchantment or hex on that ally.

4) Healing Touch [Healing Prayers] (5,1,5) Spell: Heal target touched ally for 51 health. Health gain from Divine Favor is doubled for this spell.

5) Mend Ailment [Protection Prayers] (5,1,2) Spell: Remove one condition from target ally. That ally is healed for 5 health for each remaining condition.

6) Offering of Blood [Blood Magic] (5,0,15) Spell: Sacrifice 10% maximum health. You gain 13 energy. This is an elite skill.

7) Divine Boon [Divine Favor] (5,0,0) Enchantment: While you maintain this enchantment, whenever you cast a Monk spell on an ally, that ally is healed for 73 health, and you lose 2 energy.

8) Heal Party [Healing Prayers] (15,2,0) Spell: Heal entire party for 67 health.

I had been running remove hex in place of Dwayna's Kiss, but other people in my party have taken over hex removal and allowed me to do this. Also, I run a res in place of heal party in some situations.

The key to running this build is to use Offering of Blood as soon as it refreshes. With lots of 5-cost spells, this will allow you to last for a long time without running out of mana.

As someone mentioned above, be careful of overhealing. Don't use your big spells unless you're sure you need them. And don't remove every condition anyone gets the instant it hits. Just cast when someone needs the full amount of the heal you give them.

Healing Touch is there to keep you alive. Being touch range, it's not a great spell to heal anyone else with.

Spura · May 25, 2005, 01:17 PM // 13:17

I use divine boon on my protection Mo/N. Basically it is a trick build with huge energy income at times. I heal myself by recasting divine boon(5 en, 0.25 sec cast, 0 recharge). Just recasting it(or casting any spell) heals me for 116 or so. And I am not even healer. It makes me immune to arcane conundrum, because I heal myself by casting divine boon and others by casting rof.

Talizar · May 25, 2005, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by Spura

I use divine boon on my protection Mo/N. Basically it is a trick build with huge energy income at times. I heal myself by recasting divine boon(5 en, 0.25 sec cast, 0 recharge). Just recasting it(or casting any spell) heals me for 116 or so. And I am not even healer. It makes me immune to arcane conundrum, because I heal myself by casting divine boon and others by casting rof.

How does Divine Boon heal u for 116? It's a Buff that helps other heals more, i didnt know it heals on it's own...

Epinephrine · May 25, 2005, 08:04 PM // 20:04

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Originally Posted by Talizar

How does Divine Boon heal u for 116? It's a Buff that helps other heals more, i didnt know it heals on it's own...

It doesn't, but if you have Divine Favour and Divine Boon is already running you gain the DF bonus from having a monk spell cast on you (3.2*DF) and the bonus from the Divine Boon, for 2 more energy. Guessing he has about a 14 DF for that bonus? BTW, that's how much it'll heal if he casts Remove Hex on someone as well...

uigrad · May 25, 2005, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Divine Boon is always on for me. It affects which healing spells I bring.

I always have with me the healing signet. It's a pain to use (2 second use), but my offensive power is so weak, that those 2 seconds wouldn't be of use to me anyway. It's not a big heal, but it's energy free, so a few of them over time really stack up.

I also take "shielding hands" with me. It's best use is for the dumb caster who acts as if he is a tank (there's one in every group). But, the secondary use is healing. When used with Divine Boom, it's healing aspect is more efficient (energy-wise) then even "heal other", and the shield is just gravy. The downside is the long timer between uses.

So, I use hands and signet, to prevent myself from getting low on energy. If I ever elect to fight with without divine boon, I'd need to drop those spells, and get a few of the more powerful energy-hogging spells.

Aug · May 25, 2005, 08:37 PM // 20:37

I also play a 'primary' healer with Divine Boon and Reversal of Fortune. RoF + Divine Boon = 100+ heal and a reversal on the next hit... which can turn out to be a lot of dmg mitigation if you reverse something like a Meteor, or an Eviscerate... all for 5 energy.

As for using Divine Boon to heal yourself... I suppose, if you need to heal yourself before the RoF recharge is up (or you think you'll need to heal someone else in <2s from when you heal yourself). Otherwise just use RoF on yourself.

You just need to be careful about overhealing, as others have said.

As for turning it off... I'm pretty sure 1 pip only equates to 1 energy every 3 seconds. So it takes 15s just to regain the energy to recast it. So unless you need to start throwing heals out to multiple targets consecutively, it doesn't make sense to turn it off.

theclam · May 25, 2005, 11:23 PM // 23:23

With high Divine Favor and Divine Boon, do you even need to put any points into Healing Prayers? You might reduce overhealing by using Protection spells instead, plus you'd be able to put points into your secondary profession, rather than DF/Protection/Healing.

Aranarth · May 26, 2005, 04:36 AM // 04:36

Healing or protection or whatever you can make work for you is great. I didn't mean to say that the requirement for using DF is to have healing prayers. You just need to build yourself around energy management, because you maintain an enchantment and anything you cast on an ally also costs an additional 2 energy.

Bizaflare · May 31, 2005, 09:28 AM // 09:28

We are running in a team of 2 monks - one healer, one protection monk.

I am the protection monk and doing extremely well with Divine Boon an low cost and fastcast protection spells. Combined with Peace and Harmony as Elite and Well of Power and Blood Ritual from another support Char it is very hard to silence us with lack of Energy.

@Spura - funny to find out once again, we have very similar char concepts ^^

Julius Gaius · Jun 02, 2005, 01:53 AM // 01:53

I don't use boon at all. if u do the math you'll quickly figure out that it's just not manna efficient. Not only are u paying 7 for an orison that does less than a straight heal other, but you're lowering your eng regen rate by 25%. Add in the ussual mega +eng item like them +23eng, +30HP & -1 eng regen protective icons that most healers use, and any further reduction to your regen rate is folly.

In the higher level areas the dmg/sec rates are simply wicked. U can blow you entire manna bar trying to keep up. Sometimes you can't even get the heals out quick enough to keep someone alive, energy or not.

What seems to work for me is mitigating the damage the tanks are taking with protective spirit and Aegis. This slows down the beat-down considerably, so I can land the big heals: heal other & divine healing. It also has the bonus net effect of less overhealing by other monks, which invariably happens when a HP bar is plummeting. Thus keeping more energy in the party's enery pool for heals.

In fact, I've come to think that a mo/e is the best healing/protection build. Elementalists can cast further damage reduction spells like ward against meele, magnetic aura and blurred vision, which in conjunction with Protective spirit and Aegis, would severy reduce the amount of damage received by your party.

Eclair · Jun 02, 2005, 02:25 AM // 02:25

Why don't you use heal other with divine boon instead of orison?

Julius Gaius · Jun 02, 2005, 03:12 AM // 03:12

U can, that was just an example.

I don't use DB because it's good while you're casting, but as soon as you pause, you're on the wrong side of the energy curve.